Friday, March 03, 2006

"The Call"


Okay, the red head is back by popular demand!

This past week has been met with a lot of thinking about all kinds of fronts. I won't bore everyone with all the thoughts, but I'll throw one out which will hopefully make for good comments/discussion.

I often get asked what I feel my "call" is in ministry. Sometimes the response to that question flows out a lot easier than other times. A while back, someone asked me if I felt called to Student ministry (Jr. High and High School). My first reaction was "no", but when I started really thinking about it, I'm not sure if that's the right answer.

Christ gives us the call when He says, "As you go, make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you (Matthew 18:19). Based on that, I would say "the call" is for glory...His glory....

So back to the original question that I was asked, "Do you feel called to student ministry". I think I have to answer that with a question of my own, "Does God call us to student ministry" or does He call us to the Body of Christ? As I look through the Scriptures, I don't see anywhere where it describes a teacher of any kind teaching, or being called, to a specific age group. I think "student ministry" and other age division type ministries are more of a modern way of doing ministry (and by modern a mean in the past few hundred years).

Here's a different way of thinking about it. Have you ever heard about a worship leader being asked if he's called to acoustic guitar? It sounds silly, but I would say it's the same concept.

Now, I'm sure someone is reading this and saying "My giftings/experiences fit a certain age group better" or "I have a passion for a certain age group". I can agree with that, as mine would be college students, young singles, and parents of high school students. However, that's an audience that I have learned to love and developed a passion for over time. I wouldn't say that I'm "called" to that audience. Had I not had some kind of experience, or work with them in the past, I don't know if that passion would exist for that age group.

I really think that we are focused more on making a right decision as to what our calling is with only data, and not accounting for what we can be taught through experience, that we limit what areas God wants to stretch us in. And maybe, just maybe, in that stretching we learn to love a new age group that we never felt called to before (mission trips and Vacation Bible School are a great example of this).

For the record, I'm not saying that it is beyond God to call us to go certain places at certain times, it's certainly not. But as I read Matthew 18:19 and Philippians 4:18 (The key word in this passage is "whatever", which brings freedom!) I think we have a hard time seeing the freedom that we have in ministry. I'm not talking about roles that require a spiritual gift such as the pastoral role, I'm talking about the people that have a gifting in a certain area, but don't use it because they're not sure if they are "called to a certain age group". They don’t enter a certain role out of fear or lack of experience and use the term “I don’t feel called to that”. However, maybe you do give it a shot and find that you don’t like a certain age or don’t feel comfortable with that age, or you aren’t connecting with a certain age. I think that’s a different post…

So, is this a post about semantics or is it a post of our terminology matching up with theology? I don't know, but I think it makes for interesting conversation. So as I've heard someone say before "Talk amongst yourselves".........

10 comments:

Ryan said...

Seems like I remember having this very conversation with you a while back D. I whole heartedly agree. It makes me cringe when I hear folks using the "i'm not called to that" excuse. I think Jonah would have used that one to get out of the Nineveh gig if God thought it was legit.

When folks use that line as an excuse, it comes from a low view of God and a high view of self. I boils down to preference superceding the needs of the body.

I'm currently working with Jr. High kids. Do I feel like it's in my ministry sweet spot? No. Is God stretching me and teaching me obedience, humility, and dependence on Him. You bet your sweet Aunt Nancy.

Glad to see you are back in mid-season form.

Dustin said...

Funny you should mention Jonah. I was thinking about him when I was writing this and was wondering if he was going to get metioned, well, him and sweet Aunt Nancy.....

Jessica said...

Great post Dustin... I definitely think we throw around that word too easily.. So often, "I don't feel called" or "I feel called" really means "I'd rather not" or "That sounds like fun"... At a certain point it crosses over into disobedience in not serving where the Lord has you or selfishness in only doing the things we want to do... Thanks for giving us something to mull over and check our motives on...

palomita said...

I love the phrase "ministry sweet spot"!

As I'm settling down into a church community here, I've realized that their most pressing need is decidedly NOT my ministry sweet spot...but I can't stop thinking about jumping in...which I attribute 100% to the Holy Spirit.

So, Ryan...I see your sweet Aunt Nancy, and I raise you a crazy Uncle Albert.

Erin said...

I totally agree with Ryan that the phrase "I am called" or "I am not called" is often used more as an expression of our sentiment about doing something, than about direction from God. That being said...

Regardless of what we call it, I DO think that God leads us to specific roles in our lives. When He shows us the vision of moving into those roles, I would venture to say that is a calling.

For example, I am reading "Through Gates of Splendor" right now. Jim Elliot prayed for years for "God's guidance concerning his lifework" (a phrase I have come to love!). First that vision/direction came generally - foreign missions, then over time God narrowed it to "unreached people groups," then to the jungle, then to Ecuador, then to the Auca tribe. (I may have the order slightly off, but you get the picture). I don't think anyone familiar with the story would disagree that this was his calling.

So, yes, I think God is intentional in where He leads us to serve, but I also agree that the use of the term "called" is something that may or may not be referring to God's leading vs. our own.

Anonymous said...

Great thoughts Dustin. I appreciate your blog. Interesting perspective with the instruments.

Lots of great comments here.

Seems like using our life's experiences (hopefully to share what we have learned about them), would be a great place to start. And I am wiling to bet that is the place we may not really want to be (I grew up inner city, more or less on the lower end of town, not really my comfort zone anymore, but I think I can really identify well with what is going on within that context, and can see how my experince could be helpful). But is that where I would serve best? Not sure.

You see people standing around wondering what their 'gift' is? I say jump in and God will show you.

Grace and peace,

Dustin said...

Mark, good to see you around in the blogs again!

I think the point that you make about where you grew up helping you relate to that context is right, and is valid. However, my wife never had a passion or desire for orphans in Russia until she went there. Now she has a new experience in which she has a comfort zone and relation to help her relate to those kids next time she goes.

Do I think peeps are called to certain places at certain times, sure. I think we see that all throughout the scriptures. Praise God that when we "miss the call" to those places that He has other plans in place. He's always faithful to Himself.

Again, not saying that God doesn't direct us to certain places, I just don't know if in the context of vocational ministry if "the call" is to a strategic age program or to that particular local Body.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the welcome.

I guess I wonder about the age specific ministry issue the most.

If you're blessed with a really high-pitched voice and a wonderful happy-go-lucky-smiley face (don't we all?), :O), then working with smaller children may be you're 'calling'.

At FC, they recently did a complete upside down cake with ministry leaders (Ex: one of executive pastors was moved to be the pastor of Jr. High (or some close age group - not 100% sure). He is doing a wonderful job.

Also, a friend of mine on staff at FC teaches in the Men's ministry but is full time as a pastor in FC Kids. He does a great job in both.

Both examples show diversity.

I think the 'calling' may have more to do with whether we are teachers, etc., more than anything else.

Thoughts?

Dustin said...

I agree with your last statement. As I told this person that I talked to, there are roles and gifts explained and laid out for us in Scripture, no doubt. I just don't see anyone as "being called" to age groups in the scriptures. I see that more as a strategy. Again, nothing wrong with a strategy, I just don't know if that equals "calling" in vocational ministry.

Again, some might be better with college students than 5 year old for example (ME!) but what God teaches me with a 5 year old about love and humility, sometimes would take years with only serving college students... :)

Anonymous said...

yes! We served in children's church for about 2 years. Learned a ton! Plus, my wife found her 'calling' to serve in the nursery, I found my calling is just about everywhere else. :O)

Thanks.